Upvoted: In early 2015 Bob “Moviebob” Chipman, who now thinks violence is in bad taste because there was a mass shooting, reveled in the depiction of an entire church getting killed in the movie Kingsman. I guess they were good targets? via /r/KotakuInAction
In early 2015 Bob “Moviebob” Chipman, who now thinks violence is in bad taste because there was a mass shooting, reveled in the depiction of an entire church getting killed in the movie Kingsman. I guess they were good targets?
The title serves as the TL;DR
The relevant video was posted on the Escapist on Feb. 13, 2015. Here it is, the relevant bit starts around 3:10. Sorry, I don't have an archived version, but hopefully as he no longer works there he won't profit off of views (?).
I know Moviebob isn't the most relevant of players in recent events, but as I was reviewing last week's drama, this was brought to mind this scene, which I believe was the last time I ever watched on of his videos. Let me set the scene (spoilers, obviously):
Kingsman, which I think was an excellent movie, is about a spy (Colin Firth) trying to stop a mastermind criminal (Samuel L Jackson with a funny lisp) who has developed a method of turning people horribly violent via the means of a chip in their phone. The spy in question find evidence that something is going down at this church, and unknowingly stumbles into a test of the weapon (the audience doesn't know this yet either). It turns out the church is basically a parody of Westborough Baptist, and the spy becomes increasingly uncomfortable with what they are saying, and begins to leave when he is confronted by a lady shouting at him. He then turns, pulls his gun, shoots her in the head, and a brawl breaks out where he kills multiple men and women in the church. The scene without context is here (warning, NSFW).
Moviebob is right that this was supposed to show the spy's skill, but he concludes that this was supposed to be an enjoyable scene, in which people enjoyed watching the gratuitous violence because these people were so hateful. This is nonsense. The scene was supposed to be shocking. You expect some confrontation because these people are spiteful, but you are supposed to be shocked that he'd murder that woman, and then realize that something is totally wrong as the violence escalates. The young man that shouts "oh fuck" was the main character and the spy's apprentice watching though some spy gadgetry… that was supposed to be your reaction if you aren't a psycopath. This is the big reveal of what the secret weapon does, and even the mastermind expresses sadness at the violence. Moviebob, in turn, only thinks the point is to give the audience a scene of people they hate being killed off, and expresses how much he loved watching that in the review; except this doesn't make since because the spy gets killed immediately after the big reveal (notice he's just then coming out of the church building)… were we supposed to enjoy that, too?
Now, to be sure, I think there are no moral problems with the movie having that scene. No one got hurt in real life, and I think it's fine to fantasize about some violence so long as it stays fantasy. Hell even enjoying that scene because you wanted to see them get killed (as opposed to just thinking it's a badass action scene) isn't a moral problem because it's fantasy, though that might be a sign of sociopathy, imo. But this shows a deep level of hypocrisy and unprofessionalism on Moviebob's part. He was so busy creaming his pants thinking about killing people from Westborough Baptist, he misses the whole point of the scene. He says there is "literally nothing going on expect [these people] being beaten to death." Not only that, but a little over a year later, all the games are supposed to not be violent because there was a shooting?
So If Moviebob continues to try to make people feel bad for enjoying aspects of fantasy violence, kindly remind him that he said "Holy, shit did [he] enjoy watching" a whole church get murdered.
EDIT: This video shows the two scenes together. They were literally back to back. If I can find one with the lead-up to show the church's racist preaching and such, I'll post it, too.
Submitted June 19, 2016 at 06:31PM by Mitthrawnuruodo1337
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